KEMAR ROOFE - Oxford United Starlet Linked With Reds Switch

23-year-old forward Kemar Roofe has been one of the star players throughout Oxford United’s superb League Two campaign to date. The youngster has now been linked with a potential switch to Forest in the summer.

This link follows interesting comments from owner Fawaz Al-Hasawi surrounding the Financial Fair Play situation this summer. Forest are expected to have their embargo lifted in the summer, but another heavy summer of spending would be likely to put Forest back into embargo again. However, Al-Hasawi has hinted that he will back the new manager considerably in the transfer market and that any FFP implications as a result will be dealt with when they occur. This is a very risky decision but is one which could pay off if Forest managed to gain promotion to the Premier League.

Kemar Roofe could be Nottingham Forest's first signing of the summer.

Kemar Roofe looks like he could potentially be Forest’s first signing of the summer despite the fact they have yet to find a new manager. Roofe has scored 25 goals in all competitions this season and looks more than capable of making the step up to the Championship. As Roofe can play both out wide and up front, his versatility is likely to make him a pleasing addition to any manager especially considering Forest’s lack of cutting edge upfront this season.

Roofe has scored 25 goals in all competitions for Oxford United this season.

Credit: OUFC Yellows

However, there is bound to be competition from other clubs for his signature with Premier League outfit Sunderland also said to be interested. Reading are also said to be in the hunt for the youngster who has so much potential. Al-Hasawi will be hoping he can persuade Roofe to make the switch to the City Ground.

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Will Forest really get relegated?

Due to Forest’s recent horrific run of results, I’ve deemed it necessary to see whether people’s concerns about relegation have any substance. After a 2-1 defeat at Reading, Forest are currently 9 points off the relegation places with six games remaining.

As It Stands Table:

Forest are currently in 17^th position in the Championship, 9 points above the relegation zone.

Forest’s Run-In:

Current Form: WLDLLL

Remaining Fixtures:

Brighton (H)

Rotherham (A)

Blackburn (H)

Fulham (A)

Wolves (H)

MK Dons (A)

It is easy to see why Forest fans are concerned about relegation due to recent poor results and the remaining fixtures. The way Forest are playing at the moment it is difficult to see where they will collect any more points to secure their safety. They realistically need to get to the 50 point mark to 

make sure they are most definitely safe.

Brighton at the City Ground on Monday night, following several dire home performances, looks a very tough ask especially as they are still very much in the fight for automatic promotion. The likes of Anthony Knockaert and Tomer Hemed have been in superb form lately and will be looking forward to the prospect of facing Forest’s makeshift defence. Forest also face other teams who are battling the drop including Rotherham (A), Fulham (A) and MK Dons (A). These will be very difficult fixtures against three teams who are all capable of picking up results on their day. Forest will have to be up for a scrap to get any points off these teams, which they have not been up to in recent weeks. The two fixtures I believe Forest will have the best chance of getting something out of are Blackburn (H) and Wolves (H), two fixtures against teams who have little to play for. Both are safe and have no chance of promotion and neither are particularly fantastic teams. Forest should collect enough points in these fixtures to make sure that the last day of the season trip to MK Dons is a relaxing one.

MK Dons’s Run-In:

Current Form: WDDLLL

Remaining Fixtures:

Rotherham (H)

Preston (A)

Sheffield Wednesday (A)

Brentford (H)

Ipswich (A)

Forest (H)

Last night, MK Dons missed a fantastic opportunity to put pressure on those above them as they threw away a 1-0 defeat to lose 2-1 to Wolves at home. A win, would have put them just 6 points behind Forest and 3 points off safety. However, they are still capable of picking up results and will still believe that they can beat the drop.

MK Dons and Wolves players battle during their Championship encounter last night.

They mathematically need to win 3 and draw 1 to overtake Forest, due to Forest’s superior goal difference. This is also including the fact that Forest would have to lose every single one of their remaining fixtures. I believe the next two fixtures against Rotherham (H) and Preston (A) will decide their fate, with the Rotherham fixture of Saturday being particularly crucial. If Rotherham beat them on Saturday, I can’t see the Dons avoiding the drop. Fixtures against Sheffield Wednesday (A), Brentford (H) and Ipswich (A) are all also very difficult fixtures even if they do manage to pull off wins against both Rotherham and Preston. I believe if Dons do have a chance of surviving, it will go down to the final fixture against Forest. By then Forest themselves will hopefully already be safe as Dons would have to be within 2 points of them for Forest to have a chance of being relegated. By looking at both their current form and remaining fixtures, I find it difficult to see MK Dons catching Forest before the end of the season even if Forest lose every match.

Charlton’s Run-In:

Current Form: WDWLWD

Remaining Fixtures:

QPR (A)

Derby (H)

Bolton (A)

Brighton (H)

Leeds (A)

Burnley (H)

Charlton have put together a decent run of results in recent weeks, leading Forest fans to think they are the team to watch rather than MK Dons. Last night they got a very good point in a 0-0 draw at play-off chasing Ipswich which leaves them 7 points off safety.

Charlton players and supporters celebrate their late victory against Birmingham City at the weekend.

Charlton similarly to both Forest and MK Dons appear to have a very tricky run-in. They first face a London derby on Saturday as they travel to Loftus Road to face QPR, which will be seen as a winnable game. They then face Derby at home who have recently struggled away from home for results and this again could be an opportunity for Charlton to close the gap further. They then face Bolton (H) which if they have won the previous two, will be a must win if they are to avoid the drop. Their last 3 fixtures of the season are very difficult as they face Brighton (H), Leeds (A) and Burnley (H). Brighton and Burnley are both fighting for automatic promotion and Elland Road is never an easy place to go to. Charlton’s run-in makes it unlikely they will be able to catch Forest as they are currently 10 points behind. Even 3 wins and 1 draw wouldn’t be enough as Forest have a far superior goal difference. This means that Charlton would need to get results in those last 3 fixtures even if they win the other 3 in order to catch Forest. That is also including the fact that Forest would again have to lose every single game. This makes it seem unlikely to me that Charlton will be able to catch Forest despite their recent upturn in form.

The Low-Down On Forest's Managerial Targets

It’s been over two weeks since Forest chairman Fawaz Al-Hasawi took the decision to sack manager Dougie Freedman. Just as the club appeared to be edging towards stability on and off the pitch, a 3-0 defeat at home to Sheffield Wednesday forced Fawaz into making a change. Now as Forest look for the elusive manager to guide them to the Premier League, I have had a look at some of the front-runners for the job.

Nigel Pearson:

Soon after news came in regarding Freedman’s sacking, Pearson quickly became a fan’s favorite to take over at the helm. It is clear to see why given his recent success at Leicester City, guiding them to the Championship title and then survival in the Premier League. It could be argued Pearson built the foundations to the Leicester team which has been remarkably successful this season.

Nigel Pearson was one of the early front-runners for the job. 

However, Pearson’s time at Leicester wasn’t all plain sailing. He had many outbursts with the media during Leicester’s first season back in the Premier League. He will also be remembered for one encounter with a journalist who he went on to call an ‘ostrich’ which was soon followed up by him being challenged by BBC’s Pat Murphy. During the same season, he also had a spat with a fan on the touchline damaging his reputation amongst Leicester supporters in the process.

As much as Pearson would be a popular appointment amongst fans, it is arguably unlikely that he would want to work under Fawaz as it could be seen as a recipe for disaster. Pearson could be seen as a similar character to former Forest manager Billy Davies and we all know how that one ended.

Nigel Clough:

A perhaps more realistic target is former Forest favorite Nigel Clough currently at the helm at Burton Albion in League One. He is a manager whose appointment in my opinion would bring a mixed reaction amongst Forest supporters. He steadied the ship at local rivals Derby County without really ever challenging for the play-offs. He then went on to Sheffield United where he was harshly sacked after losing out in the play-offs and also guided them to a successful campaign in the cups. Clough now finds himself top of League One with Burton Albion having continued the form shown by previous manager Jimmy Floyd-Hasselbaink.

Clough has a clause in his contract at Burton allowing him to leave for Forest without the club having to pay compensation.

However, there will be a section of the Forest faithful who would be unimpressed by Clough’s arrival. His style of play may not match what the Forest fans expect, which was a key reason behind Freedman’s sacking. Even Burton are now beginning to stumble at the top after looking certain to be automatically promoted. His managerial spell in charge of Derby will also leave him unpopular amongst some supporters.

Out of all the possible candidates, Clough appears to me to be one of the more likely contenders. He has a clause in his contract at Burton which would allow him to join Forest without them having to pay compensation. However, Fawaz has stated he may move towards appointing a foreign manager meaning Clough may have to wait a little while longer yet for his chance to follow in his father’s footsteps.

Martin O’Neill:

Martin O’Neill taking over as manager at Forest would be a dream for many Forest fans. However, it does appear unlikely that he would even consider taking the job. In my opinion, this appointment would be the most popular, possibly more so than Pearson. This is due to the fact that O’Neill is not only a proven manager but also has an affinity towards the club and knows what is expected. He has a great deal of experience with managerial history at the likes of Aston Villa, Sunderland and currently with the Republic of Ireland alongside another Forest favorite in Roy Keane.

O'Neill is currently preparing the Republic of Ireland for the Euros in France this summer.

The fact that I can hardly muster up one negative about the prospect of O’Neill taking the job is shown by how unlikely it is to happen. O’Neill is currently preparing for the Euros with the Republic of Ireland and it is likely he will sign a new deal with them if they are deemed to have been successful. However, John Robertson has hinted he may be interested in the job so you never know!

Ivan Vukomanovic:

Ivan Vukomanovic is certainly the name which Forest fans did not want to hear links about following the departure of Dougie Freedman. The inexperienced Serbian manager only has one managerial role to his name which was with Standard Liege where he lasted only three months. Despite the fact he had a reasonably successful managerial spell; Liege decided to replace him with current Charlton boss Jose Riga.

Vukomanovic is a Serbian manager who has recently met Fawaz Al-Hasawi for interview.

The fact he was even invited for interview with Al-Hasawi will cause concerns amongst supporters. However, this just goes to show the harsh reality of the calibre of managers in which Forest can now attract. One box Vukomanovic would tick would be Fawaz’s wish for a foreign manager. The fact he lacks managerial experience in general let alone in the Championship should ensure he is ruled out.

Csaba Laszlo:

A slightly more respectable foreign manager recently linked with the post is Csaba Laszlo. One of the most notable managerial spells Laszlo has had was with Hearts in 2008. He had a very successful spell there by achieving 3^rd place in the SPL but was surprisingly sacked in 2010. He has since had managerial spells at R. Charleroi S.C. and the Lithuanian national football team, neither ending particularly well.

Laszlo's most successful managerial spell came at Hearts where he guided them to 3rd in the SPL.

Laszlo is a name who is likely to be unknown to majority of Forest fans and way down their list on who they want to become the new Forest boss. However, Fawaz is looking for a foreign manager and Laszlo does have a better CV than other foreign managers such as Vukomanovic who have been linked with the job. However, his lack of experience of English football should be of huge concern and this is something Fawaz has stated he is looking for.

Who would you like to be the next Forest manager?

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Reason for Optimism at Nottingham Forest

Nottingham Forest and Dougie Freedman have managed to drastically turn their fortunes around in recent weeks. If you go back just two months, to that gloomy day in the capital where Forest lost 2-1 to 10 man Brentford at Griffin Park, it is a reminder of just how far Forest have come. Now, nearing the end of January, there is reason for optimism as Forest sit comfortably in mid-table and just eight points off the play-off places.

After the defeat to Brentford, which left Forest just two points above the relegation zone, Freedman realised that he had been forced into a change of strategy. Freedman was becoming increasingly frustrated as after the match he stated ‘We had four or five chances but didn't take them and I'm fed up of saying that after games’. Fans were quickly becoming impatient with Freedman as results took a turn for the worse.

Forest's 2-1 defeat away at Brentford left them just 2 points off the relegation places. 

However, Fawaz Al-Hasawi showed evidence of learning from his past mistakes and allowed Freedman time to get Forest out of the poor run of form they found themselves in. The start of the current run of 12 games unbeaten began on 28^th November, as Forest came out comfortable 3-1 winners at home to Reading. Forest’s changed approach looked to be paying dividends as Nelson Oliveira and Chris O’Grady combined to great effect. Forest followed it up with another convincing 3-0 win against Fulham at the City Ground just a week later.

However, it was when Forest hit the road and travelled to Wolverhampton at the beginning of December where they really started to show their ability to grind out results. As Forest faced the difficulty of an abnormal fixture list due to Sky TV they managed to pick up two hard fought away draws at Wolves and Blackburn in the space of four days and perhaps deserved more. Forest then backed those two points up with a 2-1 victory over lowly MK Dons at the City Ground in the last match before Christmas in what turned out to be a tough encounter.

A flurry of draws over the Christmas period halted Forest’s rapid progress up the league table. Leeds, Cardiff and Charlton all held Forest to a 1-1 draw as some fans became frustrated with Freedman’s tactics and how he appeared to set the team up to ‘hang on’ to a 1-0 lead. The FA Cup gave Forest a well-timed break from league action and they found that winning feeling once again as they came out 1-0 winners against Queens Park Rangers following a turgid affair. Forest returned to the City Ground just three days later and came back from behind to secure a point in a 1-1 draw with Birmingham City.

Forest were again at home on the 16^th January as they faced Freedman’s former club Bolton Wanderers who found themselves in shocking difficulty. They found themselves in even more trouble as Amos sent Jamie Ward tumbling in the penalty area which led the way for a comfortable 3-0 victory. However, it will be the most recent result which will really cause Forest fans to be optimistic for what the remainder of the season will bring. Forest went to league leaders Middlesbrough who had not conceded a goal in nine home games or lost since September 15^th on home turf, and managed to gain a 1-0 victory. This was a remarkable result, which will be achieved by very few in the Championship this season.

Forest's 1-0 victory away at Middlesbrough on Saturday is seen as their best result of the season to date. 

Now as they sit just eight points off the play-off places, there are plenty of reasons for Nottingham Forest fans to be optimistic. Freedman has already made one fantastic signing in the form of Bojan Jokic on loan for the remainder of the season and is also expecting a striker to sign before the end of the window. Britt Assombalonga can still also prove to be a huge boost if and when he returns before the end of the season (hopefully before Derby). All of the above would prove extra ammunition to a squad which is rapidly improving and showing a strong togetherness for the first time in a while.

Come on you Reds!

Five Reasons to be Cheerful this Christmas!

1. Recent Form

Forest have massively turned their form around recently especially on home turf. They have won their last four matches at the City Ground including a 1-0 win over local rivals Derby County back at the beginning of November. In addition to this, Forest ended their losing streak away from home and managed to secure two credible points away to Wolverhampton Wanderers and Blackburn Rovers. The recent upturn in form even has some fans dreaming of a play-off place which still seems a tough ask. However, if Forest can maintain their good form over this festive period, who knows?

2. Stability

Stability is a word not often used to describe Nottingham Forest in recent years, but the club seems to be improving in this regard. Fawaz could easily have pulled the trigger on Forest manager Dougie Freedman as many called for his head after a poor run of form. Despite this, he has stood by him and Dougie has now almost been at the club for a YEAR. In modern day football and especially at Forest this is a considerable achievement. If Dougie can last till the end of the season, he will be the first manager to last a whole season under Fawaz Al-Hasawi's ownership. 

3. Fawaz

Fawaz seems to have finally learnt his lesson and is now appearing far less on social media. The summer brought huge confusion again with Fawaz tweets contradicting what was actually happening in regards to the Henri Lansbury and Michail Antonio situations. This caused many fans to lose their patience with the owner and react on social media. Fawaz now seems to have taken more of a back seat and allowed Dougie and his team to get on with their job which can only be a good thing. 

4. Injured Players Returning

Despite the devastating injury to Dani Pinillos, there is positive injury news. Chris Cohen is nearing his return and is likely to play in the FA Cup match against QPR on the 9th January. In addition to this, Britt Assombalonga and Matty Fryatt are also close to making a return and hope to be back around February. With these three players back in the squad, it could allow Forest to push on up the table if they are within striking distance of the play-offs. Assombalonga and Fryatt will add vital firepower to the team which it has been lacking so far this season. 

Britt Assombalonga celebrates scoring the opening goal of the 1-1 draw with rivals Derby County last September. 

Credit: The Guardian Newspaper 

5. Third Kit

Forest recently released their Third Kit and its fair to say its a beauty!

Britt Assombalonga presents the new Forest Third Kit which is already proving to be a hit with supporters. 

Merry Christmas!

MK Dons Home Pre-Match Preview

On Saturday (19th December 2015), Forest return to the City Ground to face Karl Robinson's MK Dons. Last time out, Forest secured a credible point in a turgid 0-0 draw away to Blackburn Rovers on Monday evening. Forest will be looking to increase the significance of two hard fought away points with a win on Saturday afternoon.

MK Dons ended a horrid start to the season on Tuesday evening by beating Sheffield Wednesday 2-1 on home turf. This win ended a winless run of five games which included three defeats to the likes of Brighton & Hove Albion, Brentford and Ipswich Town. MK Dons currently find themselves in the lowly position of 20th in the Championship table. However, they will now be looking to build on Tuesday's result and pull away from the relegation zone. The one factor which will give Forest great confidence is the dire away form of the Dons. They only have one away win to their name so far this season which came on the opening day as they came out 4-1 winners away to fellow strugglers Rotherham United. One player to look out for is Carl Baker who is currently top scorer for the Dons with three goals. In comparison, Forest are starting to build some momentum themselves. The point gained away at Blackburn on Monday evening, extended Forest's unbeaten run to four games. During recent times, Forest's home form has been particularly impressive. They have won their last three games at home and are unbeaten in the last five. The last two games included comfortable victories against Reading and Fulham both of whom are above MK Dons in the league table. However, there is no easy game in the Championship and Forest will know they will have to be at their best to secure the three points.

Chris Cohen is nearing a return to first-team action as he played 45 minutes of football for the reserves at Barnsley on Monday. Ryan Mendes should return to the squad after being left out with a slight knock for the trip to Blackburn Rovers. Andy Reid has been confirmed to still be struggling with his groin injury which has kept him out since September last year. Britt Assombalonga and Matty Fryatt are both making good progress and hope to be back in the New Year. Forest sustained no additional injuries on Monday evening.

My score prediction for this match is Nottingham Forest 2-0 MK Dons. I feel the combination of Forest's good recent home form and MK Dons's dire away form will ensure the three points go to Forest. However, I do not feel it will be as comfortable as some people may think due to the fact MK Dons are coming off the back of a very good 2-1 win against Sheffield Wednesday. This may well give them the confidence to come to the City Ground and believe they can grind out some sort of result.

Forest Deadline Day Report

As the transfer window slammed shut this evening, I have taken time to look at the ins and outs at the City Ground. As expected, there has been plenty of movement at the club as the Reds currently work under a transfer embargo. The day involved Michail Antonio sealing his move to West Ham United, Chris O'Grady signing on a season-long loan from Brighton & Hove Albion and Jamie Paterson leaving to sign a season-long loan deal at Huddersfield Town.

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Chris O'Grady - Brighton & Hove Albion (Season-Long Loan):

Forest announced the signing of experienced Championship front-man Chris O'Grady around one hour before the 6pm deadline. Most Forest fans won't be too excited about this addition as they were for the likes of Britt Assombalonga and Michail Antonio last summer, but O'Grady could still prove to be a good addition to Forest's squad. It hasn't worked out for O'Grady during his time at Brighton scoring only 1 goal in 31 appearances for the Seagulls. However, he has already proven in the past that he can score goals at this level. He bagged 16 goals for a poor Barnsley side during the 2013/14 season, one of which came at the City Ground where he caused the Forest defence problems. I personally think this is a very good piece of business by Dougie Freedman. It is almost a 'risk free' deal due to the fact he will only be on around £10,000 a week and is only on a season-long loan. This means if it doesn't work out for O'Grady at Forest, the club aren't committed to any long-term deals worth a lot of money. O'Grady may also provide good support to Tyler Walker who often struggles to lead the line by himself for Forest at such a young age. We will have to wait and see just how good a piece of business this turns out to be.

Chris O'Grady's goals for Barnsley during the 2013/14 season including one against Forest at the City Ground. 

Nelson Oliveira - Benfica (Season-Long Loan):

Nelson Oliveira was the second striker to join the Forest ranks on transfer deadline day, aswell as Brighton forward Chris O’Grady. Oliveira will probably excite Forest fans more due to his pedigree and experience at the age of just 24 years old. He began his career at Benfica and has been loaned to plenty of clubs during his career including Rio Ave, Pacos Ferreira, Deportivo La Coruna, Rennes and most recently Swansea City. His best loan spell came at Rennes where he scored 8 goals in 30 appearances. Even though his goal scoring record may not appear too great, he has achieved 14 caps for Portugal scoring 1 goal. He has been previously regarded as one of Portugal’s most promising talents. If Dougie Freedman can get the best out of him at Forest then he could prove to be a very good addition to the squad. He is also 6ft 1in showing that he can offer an aerial threat to the team which Forest seem to currently lack from corners and set pieces.

Ryan Mendes - Lille (Season-Long Loan):

This signing was actually confirmed by Lille on their official website on Monday evening before Deadline Day even begun. However, Forest did not announce it for some time due to the fact Mendes had to receive international clearance and they did not want to embarrass themselves like they did for the Ben Hamer deal earlier this summer. However, Mendes is a very talented player who has done well throughout his career. As a winger his goal scoring record isn’t too bad as he started his career at Le Havre scoring 20 goals in 84 appearances. He then secured a move to Lille in which he has so far scored 7 goals in 47 appearances. He will now look to go some way to filling Michail Antonio’s boots at the City Ground as he makes a move to England for the first time. Mendes also like Oliveira has international experience and has represented Cape Verde 19 times scoring 4 goals. For a player at the age of just 25 years old, he does seem to bring a lot of experience to the table. He could be another player who could prove his worth to Forest if he gets off to a good start in the Sky Bet Championship.

Jonathan Williams - Crystal Palace (On Loan Until January):

This is the deal which Forest fans will get really excited about as Jonathan Williams joins the club on loan until January from Premier League side Crystal Palace. This is arguably Forest's best piece of business this summer due to the quality he brings to the table. He may be well-known for some Forest fans not least for the fantastic performance he put in at the City Ground last summer as he controlled the game and was a key influence for Ipswich Town. He could provide the creativity needed in midfield and potentially help fill the void left by Michail Antonio leaving the club. He was very highly rated at Ipswich last campaign as he was seen as a key player in Mick McCarthy's play-off semi-finalists team. He will add to a host of central midfield options Forest have at their disposal with the likes of Henri Lansbury, Kyle Ebecilio, David Vaughan, Michael Mancienne, Ben Osborn and Jorge Grant all available for selection. This is before Chris Cohen, Andy Reid and Robert Tesche return from their injuries. However, there is no doubt Williams will be a key member of Freedman's squad this season.

OUTS:

Michail Antonio - West Ham United (Undisclosed Fee):

The first piece of transfer business to come from Forest on transfer deadline was the confirmed departure of winger Michail Antonio to West Ham United. The news will not have come as a shock to Forest fans as speculation had been circulating surrounding the player for a significant amount of time. Antonio will no doubt be a miss for the Reds having provided the same with pace, power and plenty of goals. He scored 15 goals for the side last season aswell as providing plenty of assists. However, despite scoring four goals for Forest in all competitions this season, it was clear to see that the player was unsettled and keen on a move elsewhere. That is what makes the reported fee of around £6 or 7 million very good business for the club. The sale also confirms the club will be out of the transfer embargo next summer which is fantastic news. It will be interesting to see how Antonio fairs in the Premier League and will also be interesting to see whether Forest included any sort of sell-on clause within the deal. Antonio will wear the number 30 shirt for the Hammers and thanked Forest fans for their support during his time at the club live on Sky Sports News.

Jamie Paterson - Huddersfield Town (Season-Long Loan):

Jamie Paterson followed Michail Antonio out of the door on transfer deadline day as he joined Huddersfield Town on a season-long loan. It is fair to say that Paterson has been unfortunate in recent times at Forest after impressing so much in his first season at the City Ground. In the 2013/14, he netted 12 times in 39 appearances in all competitions. However, he struggled to cement his place in this first team in recent years after being out of favour with the likes of Stuart Pearce and Dougie Freedman. There have also been questions on his attitude and commitment in training which may have limited his opportunities at the club. At the start of this season, Michail Antonio (before leaving to join West Ham), Jamie Ward, Oliver Burke and Chris Burke all found themselves infront of Paterson in regards to selection in the wide positions. The deal is said to include an option to buy according to the local press but from a Forest point of view it would be good to see him rekindle his form and then return to the club as a better player. It would not be a surprise to see Paterson be a success at Huddersfield as he is undoubted ability and it still just 23 years old.